Friday, April 4, 2008

Dead Guy Quote (10)

"Here in America we are descended in blood and in spirit from revolutionists and rebels - men and women who dare to dissent from accepted doctrine. As their heirs, may we never confuse honest dissent with disloyal subversion." -- Dwight Eisenhower

13 comments:

Anonymous said...

God Bless America. And God Bless you and each of your Gravediggers.

Grandpa said...

"may we never confuse honest dissent with disloyal subversion"

A fine line often blurred, but as Justice Potter Stewart famously said about pornography, “I know it when I see it”.

Actions have consequences, just as inaction does, for both good and evil.

lela said...

To some extent, I think the real point of President Eisenhower's quote is that honest dissent with principled arguments is good for democracy and for our country. Unfortunately, there is a clear distinction between honest dissent and disloyal subversion. The hard part, sometimes, is finding the line between the two. Stay safe Gravediggers & Lt G.

Anonymous said...

In your honor we have copied President and General Eisenhower's quote and put it up in our break room, along with another one we like:

"Without debate, without criticism, no administration and no country can succeed -- and no republic can survive." John F. Kennedy

Just like you, we have a "punkass pogue warrant officer" ("In My Army") who we have to deal with. It has been great fun to observe his confusion and consternation at finding such quotes in "his" break room!

Thanks again Lieutenant G!

The girls in Adm. Services

Anonymous said...

Amen, brother!

Anonymous said...

I'm been reading the posts. There is an alternate intelligence source for this situation. I hope it can be useful for you.

http://www.juancole.com/

CSB said...

Dear Last Anonymous:

Juan Cole is not so much an "alternate source" as he is a resident of an alternate universe. Pay attention to the guys who are THERE and not so much to armchair generals safe in their university department offices, protected by the invincible armor of tenure.

Bro. Bartleby said...

I suppose the most troubling aspect of life is that fight, kill, struggle, are as common and ordinary in life forms as violent transformational change is the commonness of the inorganic universe. And here we are, self-aware being with minds that can imagine a nonviolent world, yet forever floundering until foundered when attempting to create this imagined world. Yet we try, as "good wars" can attest, and using the commonness of the universe is always the luring tool, violence against the "evil" seems the expeditious means, whether Nazis or a disease of the body. More often than not "killing" the cancer is the only choice, other than submission to the cancer. The last of the strategies for an imagined nonviolent world is the practice of nonviolence. Turning the other cheek has always been a tough concept to imagine practicing in anything other than personal affairs. Possibly in a somewhat civilized world a Gandhi turns the other cheek to the "civilized" British and makes it work, but as history knows it is certain death in those times and places of uncivilized brutishness when humans are but human in appearance -- how many Jews turned the other cheek to a Nazi at Auschwitz? If there ever was an image of peaceful sheep going to slaughter, it is those newsreels of box cars arriving at the death camps, and out come the peaceful sheep: old men, young men, old women, young women, and all the children, and all the babies. Now if only those Nazis were human, and could see, and recognize the holiness of all those precious sheep. So what a conundrum we live in, the exterior world where violence is but a paper-thin distance away, the skin our shield from the abrasions that every child knows so well -- the hard world skins our knee -- yet within the skin, and even deeper within, in that mysterious interior of the brain, the mind, fanciful thoughts of peace and nonviolence are as common as our next breath.

mutt said...

Cole in his "alternative universe" was way more right about this situation than the people who sold it.
Speaks & writes Arabic, too. I check in with you every day, Lt G. I check these guys, too-
http://abumuqawama.blogspot.com/
As you know, intell comes from a lot of sources.
I very much appreciate your sensibilities.....i appreciate the window you throw open on this......situation we find ourselves in ("whaddya mean, "we"", I can hear you say)
Like I said, I got you down on my vets group website.....and Ive posted your addy on a LOT of places.
Theres a hell of a lot of people who need to read what you are writing......

pain said...

Thank you... You should check out my book. I'm john scott ridgway, and if you google up my book One War, you can have a free download. My background is military intellignece, which I studied from a leftest perspective. You also might get a kick out of my comedy at http://thereligiouspsychokillerhislist.blogspot.com I have a lot of soldiers as fans... under johnny pain. Again, you protect us. Thank you. I think of you guys everytime I look at the moon.

horace said...

your star continues to rise...

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/IndustryInfo/story?id=4584910&page=1

scroll halfway down the first page. He describes your blog as "fabulous."

Anonymous said...

What Michael S. Malone, who has written for the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times and is a former editor of Forbes, as well as the author of several of his own books says is:

"I went on the Web and read a fabulous entry in a blog called Kaboom by a soldier known only as Lt. G It was some of the best first-person reporting I've read all year."

We've known it all along! Congratulations!

Anonymous said...

Dear csb; I am aware of your remarks. They do not merit any further response.

However, I do notice a number of PajamaHedeen who want this war pretty bad. Interestingly, that's how you're getting it. Worse, you lack the T to get there yourself, and therein, lies the rub.

The longer you try to keep good men, like the LT and the GD's in country, the more blood is on your hands. Frankly, there's enough already. It's a shame you can't understand that.

I have no further explanation.